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7 bullet points on why the Passion Conference is one to avoid.

By Elizabeth Prata

The Passion Conference is a youth-aimed conference founded in 1995-1997 by Louie and Shelley Giglio. It is held in Atlanta and has a huge following online with tis social media, livestreamed conference, and in-person attendance. There is a split-off conference also in South Africa. The demographic Passion aims to reach is age 18-25, and both young men and women are invited. It is held annually in January. This year’s conference, like most of the previous ones, is sold out. The venue this year is the State Farm Arena which has a capacity of about 19000. There are two dates for the conference, January 2-4 and January 6-8 with different musicians and speakers at each. It regularly sells out, and has sold out for 2025. In the past the conference has been held at the Mercedes Benz arena which holds 71,000.

The conference creates an atmosphere that young people enjoy, which includes lots of glitz, music more rock and roll oriented, light shows, and speakers younger people are familiar with- whether the speaker is a true teacher or false.

Passion 2024, source, Passion’s Instagram

Here are some bullet points for why the Passion Conference is one to avoid:

1. False Teachers. The conference features false teachers. This year Jackie Hill Perry is speaking, JHP has admitted she receives visions and instructions from the Lord directly. In the past speakers have been IF:Gathering founder Jennie Allen who also admitted she directly hears from God, Beth Moore, same with the visions and voices from God, David Platt, Kim Walker-Smith of Bethel, Priscilla Shirer, Christine Caine, and others equally as false.

2. Women preachers. Passion Conference platforms women preachers. There is a co-ed audience, with men attending. Women are not to preach to men says 1 Timothy 2:12. (Essay here explaining the scripture).

Passion 2024, source, Passion’s Instagram

3. False Doctrine. Passion conference introduces false doctrine in the speeches and in the music, to tens of thousands of youths and sends them back to their local churches carrying these evil seeds. For one example, most notably in the Passion 2012 conference, Beth Moore, Francis Chan, and John Piper performed a version of the Catholic practice of Lectio Divina. See link at end for more on this.

One of Passion’s subsidiaries is Passion Equip, a series of study lessons [led by false teachers], a resource from the Passion movement including tracks, devotionals, messages, articles, podcasts, and scripture study that interested youths may engage in. Again, one’s own pastor is supposed to be the cornerstone of teaching these youths.

Passion 2024, source, Passion’s Instagram

4. Manipulative. Passion relies on atmosphere to manipulate youths into spending buckets of money in attempts to cure social ills and perform social justice, such as helping the homeless and ending human trafficking. Passion states that “Since 2007, believing worship + justice are two sides of the same coin.” Thus they promote the social justice gospel. More info here on what the social gospel is.

source as above

5. Divisive. For all the speakers’ talk of “community” the Passion conferences do much to divide it. They forbid parents, senior pastors, elders, and older siblings from attending with the youth. Only the person bringing the youth are allowed to buy a ticket and accompany them. See screen shots of both the 2013 verbiage and the current conference for proof. Passion Conference has always striven to separate youth from the more solid adults in their life.

Church community is a community of people from all ages. Yet the Passion people go on and on about “this generation.” There is so much emphasis on “this generation” but in fact it looks like Passion strives to separate them from the herd. For example, there is Passion Camp where “Middle and high school students gather together for four days of worship, teaching and community. Not to mention, four fun days on the shores of Daytona Beach!“, [MIDDLE schoolers!] We should be suspicious of any organization that aims to separate people from each other, like Passion, Chrysalis weekends for 15-18 year olds, The Walk to Emmaus/The Great Banquet/Tres Dias AKA Cursillo which separates husbands from wives who must attend over different weekends.

6. It’s an industry, not just a conference. Some have called the Passion Industry a “commercialized money grabber.” Here are the subsidiaries:
–Passion City Church: A church with locations in Atlanta, Cumberland, Trilith, and Washington D.C.
–sixstepsrecords: A music label that represents many prominent contemporary Christian musicians
–Passion Publishing: A publishing company
–Passion Global Institute: An institute founded by Louie Giglio
–Passion Conferences, LLC
–Passion Resources
–Passion Productions, Inc.

7. Lofty mantras that distract from the local church’s teaching. The Passion devotees are told repeatedly they are part of “a global awakening”, “a movement” for “this generation”. (and they ARE devotees, some youths attend year after year.) What about the other generations? Children? Elders? Isn’t Christianity a global movement already? Being brainwashed into thinking ‘this generation’ is special or different reduces the reality for them to be faithful week after week in their local church, where nothing spectacular seems to happen, unless you count the point of it all, conversions and baptisms. But those pale in comparison to the emotional high of being with tens of thousands of adrenaline-fueled like-minded youths in a music drenched arena being told they are part of something global and meaningful. These youths are not being discipled. They are being infected.

Do you see the magnitude of the problem? All these tens of thousands of youths being given false doctrine by false teachers and a false gospel.

This conference does much to divide the church by capitalizing on a natural youthful zeal and diverts their attention from quiet submission in service to a local church. This co-opting of their zeal to solve a cultural or social ill is not biblical. It sets them up for disappointment.

In fact, here is a 21 year old 2022 attendee who was reflecting on the experience:

Hey y’all! I attended Passion a few days ago and I have a lot of mixed feelings. Initially I went with hopes of finding my encounter and connection with God & my faith. Instead I left more confused than ever. I did some research on two speakers and quickly found out they are controversial, for lack of better words. I did research on them because their message was just off putting so I wanted to learn more about them.

The worship music was great. I think during that time was when I felt most in touch and truly felt the Lord. But in a way it all felt so fake? I don’t know how to explain it. It just didn’t sit very well.

In the end I don’t think I was able to find my connection with God. I still feel lost. And I know I shouldn’t hold that against Passion per say but everyone kept telling “you will feel His presence there” and I simply did not. It baffled me that they let these people with heinous backgrounds stand up there and speak to a community when they’re the ones that should be doing some self reflecting as well. It just makes you wonder, how much of this is real and how much of this is all just for show/money?

I will keep holding onto His Word but nowadays it seems as if everyone picks and chooses what they want to preach about.

Am I reading too much into it? Is this just the world blinding me to keep living in sin? I long for that connection with God and I am having so much trouble finding Him. Edit: for context I am still young (21F) and still on my journey regarding my faith. I am so thankful for yalls input and kind words!

Avoid Passion Conferences and all their spokes on their commercialized wheel. Pray, study scriptures with your elder or mentor or parent, attend church faithfully, strive to live out your biblical values in your school or work place, then repeat. For that is the walk of the Christian.

Further Resources:

Exposing the Dangers of Passion 2025 with Dave Jenkins and Michelle Lesley, podcast 1hr and a half

Todd Friel at Wretched Radio discussing the 2012 Lectio Divina incident at Passion, 16 min

Spencer Smith warning about the 2022 Passion Conference in this 12 min video

Chris Tomlin founded Passion Conference with Louie Giglio. Here is a review of Tomlin when he promoted heretic Joyce Meyer

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Passion Conference: Parents barred from attending, errant teachings introduced, false teachers lauded, and more. Linkapalooza inside

By Elizabeth Prata

The Atlanta Passion Conference is a Christian conference aimed at older teens and college-aged students. I live not too far from Atlanta, and I live near a University town. Lots of young folks around here flock to the annual Passion Conference in Atlanta at this time of year. This year’s conference just closed. I have received several questions about the conference from friends in real life and online. Here is some information about this conference I’ve written in the past. Hopefully it will bring to light the major concerns with this conference. I do not recommend it for several reasons, which are explored in the links below. Continue reading “Passion Conference: Parents barred from attending, errant teachings introduced, false teachers lauded, and more. Linkapalooza inside”

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Looking at Christine Caine’s speech at Passion 2019

By Elizabeth Prata

The Passion 2019 conference concluded last weekend. The event has expanded to four simultaneous venues spread among three cities, and all four were sold out. A total of just over 43,000 youths between the ages of 18-25 were in attendance.

One of the speakers this year was Christine Caine. Christine hails from Australia and is known for having founded the Propel Women organization and A21. Propel aims at “Activating every woman’s passion, purpose, & potential.” A21 “is abolishing slavery everywhere, forever.”

Caine is popular, but sadly she is a false teacher. Michelle Lesley wrote about Caine here. I wrote about her here.

The three-day Passion conference event is specifically a youth-oriented event. There is a restricted age-range that is allowed to attend. No one under 18 (unless you’re a senior in High School) and no one over the age of 26. Only the Pastor or Leader of the group attending may enter. No parents, no elder siblings, no elders of your church. Access denied.

Here are videos of the event.

I received a query about Caine’s sermon, so listened to Caine’s it, which was almost an hour. Well, I muted the sound and pushed forward the slider in ten second increments while reading the closed captions. I read what she taught and it was straight Word of Faith, twisted verses and all. Here are specifics on how to detect Word of Faith teaching.

The Word of Faith movement is decidedly unbiblical.

At the heart of the Word of Faith movement is the belief in the “force of faith.” It is believed words can be used to manipulate the faith-force, and thus actually create what they believe Scripture promises (health and wealth). GotQuestions

Here are a few screen shots from the video with the captions of statements that stood out to me. Her base text is from Matthew 8:10,

When Jesus heard this, he marveled and said to those who followed him, “Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith.”

In Word of Faith you’ll often hear the word ‘allow.’ The WoF believes (GotQuestions again) that ,

“Laws supposedly governing the faith-force are said to operate independently of God’s sovereign will and that God Himself is subject to these laws.”

In WoF world therefore, when we do something according to these laws, God can then be ‘allowed’ to operate within them. The section of Caine’s lecture as seen on the screen shot shows she is teaching classic WoF.

In WoF land, you will hear the word “activate” a lot. In WoF teachings, the object of our faith is our faith (really, us). We possess faith. Something we DO activates it, then God works within it. That’s why within WoF if something doesn’t happen the way we decreed it, (healing, prosperity) it means WE didn’t have enough faith. Things depend on us and our faith, not on God. You see the switch: in WoF teachings it’s switched from God being sovereign to us being sovereign. Word of Faith teachers need to read and re-read Job 38-41 to learn man’s place befroe a sovereign God.

As for activating things, God is not a dried up sea monkey waiting for a drop of water to activate Him. If we are regenerated, then the Holy Spirit is in us and He is always working. His will is independent of ours and He does as He wants. He needs no “activation.” Even the printed word of God is living and “active.” Nothing WE do activates it.

In WoF you will hear the word “miracle” a lot. Miracles are important to these people because they are the proof of ‘our’ faith. The emphasis, again, is on our faith, and the results from our faith, such as miracles (or health or prosperity). Biblically, miracles were a sign authenticating the unique personage of Jesus, who was sent from God. (John 20:30,31; John 2:23). The WoF teachers do not focus on Jesus as He is for Who He is.

So why did Jesus marvel at the centurion’s faith? Doesn’t Jesus already know everything? We remember that Jesus is God, but in His incarnation He was also man, and when He marveled it is this side of his dual-single nature that comes into play.

For example, Jesus “grew in wisdom”, (Luke 2:52). The God side of Jesus already knows everything, but the man side of Jesus grew because that is what men do, grow. We can’t really grasp how He can know everything but also grow wiser- but that is the mysterious nature of the hypostatic union. [FMI see this Theological Primer from Keven DeYoung on the Hypostatic Union].

Alternately, can Jesus be surprised enough to marvel at a person’s faith? It is the man-God nature again. Jesus dispenses all faith, so the Centurion received it from Jesus as God. Remember the verse in Mt 16:17 when Jesus told Peter,

“And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.”

Jesus as man can be astounded at a man who was a Gentile, had never learned the scriptures, but who had faith enough to trust that Jesus’s power permeated all the universe and that His physical presence or absence to do a miracle was of no matter.

MacArthur:

“When Jesus heard this remarkable expression of the centurion’s humble faith, He marveled at him. Here is a glimpse of Jesus’ true humanity, since as God He is omniscient and cannot be surprised by anything. But just as in His humanity He became tired (John 4:6), hungry, (Matt. 4:2), and thirsty (John 19:28; cf. 4:7), so also could He be astonished at the faith displayed by this Roman soldier.”

Matthew Henry:

He turned him about, as one amazed, and said to the people that followed him, I have not found so great faith, no not in Israel. Note, Christ will have those that follow him to observe and take notice of the great examples of faith that are sometimes set before them—especially when any such are found among those that do not follow Christ so closely as they do in profession—that we may be shamed by the strength of their faith out of the weakness and waverings of ours.

RC Sproul explains why WoF folks like Caine believed as she does, here is a snippet from his devotional,

“Some professing Christians have concluded from texts like this that human faith gives power to God.”

In addition to Caine’s Word of Faith doctrines showing her as a false teacher, she was inappropriate elsewhere in her speech. She spoke twice of how husbands can be “getting some action” out of their wives. She spoke of a skiing accident where she was loaded onto a stretcher and bemoaned the fact that she wasn’t wearing any underwear. Yes, these items were included in her speech to thousands of teenage and young male adults listening. Should a teacher or pastor say this ever? Of course not.

Jude 1:4 warns that false teachers will pervert the grace of our God into sensuality-

For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

If Christine Caine’s “sermon” raised red flags to you, good for you. If anything in this essay raised red flags for you, good. He needs no activation, no Word of Faith Law to operate within, and He does not depend on us.

Our God is in the heavens; he does all that he pleases. (Psalm 115:3).

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