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Jesus taught from the boat

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Jesus taught from the boat…

Water carries sound and it amplifies it. The crowds were so crushing that in order to even have space, Jesus launched into one of the sailboats (not a dinghy as depicted above, lol) and He spoke to the crowds. Note, He was sitting, they were standing, indicting His important presence, as was the custom of the day.

Were they thirsting for the truth from the Living Waters? Or were they rubberneckers hoping for a personal miracle? Both. We know the end of the story, most people turned out to be rubberneckers only out to see the latest thing in Galilee. Most of these same people eventually rejected Him. (Mark 6:4-5).

What a momentous occasion on that shore! To be present and taught directly by God Himself. We are blessed, we believers in this present Church Age. We have the Holy Spirit in us to teach us these things. This Spirit will never leave us.

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. (John 16:7)

The blessings from our Lord are manifold, beginning with our indwelled Spirit, and His word which was later written down at the inspiration of His Spirit. Study His word today, worship Him by praising Him for those words, and bless Him by being obedient to them. He is a gracious and magnificent God, who taught His sheep from the boat.

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Moving Day

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By Elizabeth Prata

I’m moving apartments this morning, so I won’t be writing and publishing a new blog today. My internet will be cut off here and (hopefully) installed there, later today, so I hope to be back up and running tomorrow.

The Lord providentially took care of this entire thing- giving me this apartment in the first place 13 years ago, and it was a perfect one with no problems whatsoever the entire time. Now that inventory is so low here in the county, He found me another one when it became necessary, and He prompted my work family and church family to help me make the move. Every detail is worked out.

I want to acknowledge His hand in my life down to the exact details,

In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. (Proverbs 3:6)

Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible says of the Proverbs verse-

In all thy ways acknowledge him,.... Or "know him" (l); the Lord: set him before thee; have him always in view; consider him as ever present with thee, observing every step thou takest; and take not one step without his leave, and without his advice; ask wisdom of him who gives liberally; consult his word, and make the Scriptures thy counsellors, or the men of thy counsel, as in Psalm 119:24; take him as your guide; observe the footsteps of his providence; follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes; walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit; when things go cross and adverse, and not to your mind, submit to his sovereignty; and be still and know that he is God, that does all things right, for his own glory and his people's good, Psalm 46:10; and when things succeed, give him the glory of all; own his hand in it, and the bounty of it; acknowledge that all you have, in providence and grace, come from him;

He is a good, good Father! So, I haven’t really ‘Gone Fishin’ because I’m not relaxing or on vacation, but I’ll catch you on the flip side! (See what I did there?)

Blessings and thank you for your prayers and donations, I’m humbly grateful!

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Will God send over 90% of all humans who ever lived to hell?

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By Elizabeth Prata

I received this question from a reader. That’s all he wrote. Not ‘I’m struggling with this doctrine, can you help?’ or ‘I need some clarification on why God would do this…” Just the question, no context or even a hello.

“Will God send over 90% of all humans who ever lived to hell?“

Oh, boy. I knew what was coming. I welcome questions and I love to point people to scriptures and to credible ministries that offer solid answers related to a person’s question. But a question that starts out with truculent phrasing is almost always from an atheist or purposeful provoker and never ends well. But, in good faith, I answered in the following way:

Prata: No… Our default condition upon conception is sinner at enmity with God. So God doesn’t “send” anyone to hell, since ALL PEOPLE since the Fall of Adam ever born (except Jesus) would go there just by being totally depraved sinners. It’s the just punishment for sinners against a holy God. What God does and did was send Jesus to rescue sinners and save them by His grace.

Prata: He justifiably judges sinners who rebel against Him, who is thrice holy. But He also chooses to save some through no merit of our own. This is grace, and we are grateful to a savior who saves wretched enemies who do not deserve it. What we ALL deserve is hell.

With my first reply, I tested the waters with going straight to the doctrine of total depravity to see how he would respond. If it was, I’d expect the person to sincerely ask for clarification, and then I’d begin teaching from scripture. If not, I’d reply once more to see if they were genuinely responding to the actual conversation, or just whipping up more scenarios simply to be vexing for their own entertainment. Here is his response:

Reader: If everyone is hell-bound by default, then people, especially Christians, should stop having kids. Because all we are doing is adding to God’s expanding no-fly list of billions of unsaved names. And if the vast majority of mankind is going to eternal conscious punishment in hell according to the end times prophecies of Revelations, then that means for the majority of mankind, life had absolutely no meaning in the end. Let’s say your car overturned and pinned you. There’s a fuel leak. I happened to be nearby. I’m a non-Christian. I am the only person around. I rush to your car and pull you to safety but the car bursts into flames and I burn to death while saving you.

Reader: But since I died a non-Christian, I would suddenly find myself in hell even though I ended my life doing a selfless, heroic act saving one of God’s elect. But if regardless of how I live and end my life, if the result is the same for non-Christians, I may as well have not saved you. I should’ve walked away and let you save yourself.

OK, one reply and then I’ll bow out. Scripture this time. Lots of them. It doesn’t seem like he cares about God but only about arguing his point. Going to the doctrine of total depravity and seeing peoples’ response to it shows me where they’re coming from. A low view of sin in ourselves means the person has a low view of God and a high view of man (and his deeds).

Prata: You have a man-centric point of view. You need to expand that and submit to God’s point of view and His plan. All lives had meaning in the end, those in heaven glorify God by being a display of His mercy. Those in hell glorify God by being a display of His justice.

Isaiah 64:6, “We are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”

So what you saved me from a burning car but died yourself? We all die sometime. All your works are as filthy rags if you’re not in Christ, whether you’re Hitler or an unsaved fireman saving someone from a burning car and died “selflessly.” The ONLY true selfless act in the universe was Jesus dying on the cross to save sinners like you and me.

I encourage you to read the article below about how hell glorifies God. The only meaning in life is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. It’s the chief end of man. (Westminster Shorter Catechism)

Q. 1. What is the chief end of man?
A. Man’s chief end is to glorify God, [a] and to enjoy him for ever. [b]

[a]. Ps. 86:9; Isa. 60:21; Rom. 11:36; 1 Cor. 6:20; 10:31; Rev. 4:11
[b]. Ps. 16:5-11; 144:15; Isa. 12:2; Luke 2:10; Phil. 4:4; Rev. 21:3-4

Your argument is with God.

Romans 9:21, Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary on Rom 9:21–
Hath not the potter power over the clay; of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another to dishonour?—”The objection is founded on ignorance or misapprehension of the relation between God and His sinful creatures; supposing that He is under obligation to extend His grace to all, whereas He is under obligation to none.

How Does Hell Glorify God?

We will end our discussion here, your tendency for mockery against God only digs you deeper into a hellish hole. “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15).

(I hadn’t liked his characterization of God making a ‘no-fly’ list).

Well, as expected, he did not respect my note to end here. He came back with another email splattered with different scenarios on different topics, not really replying to the one we started with. It’s a key indicator that I’m dealing with a truculent person out for his own entertainment. I replied asking him to please respect my wish for him to meditate on the scriptures provided, to read the article suggested, and to think about what was already discussed, which was substantial (if one is truly seeking and not just arguing). I’d said that if he replied right away again, I’d block him, sadly. He did reply, not with one email but two, which I did not read. And I did block, without engaging again, as promised. So he went to comment on the blog, which I blocked him there too.

When you’re in a public ministry, expect questions, challenges, and even linguistic booby traps in the guise of sincerity. It’s OK to make decisions based on your experience of how long to go on in conversation with a person. There are two scriptures which apply:

but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, but with gentleness and respect; (1 Peter 3:15)

and-

Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. (Matthew 7:6).

I’d said at the start that engaging with people who are obviously out for a fight doesn’t end well. It doesn’t end well for two reasons. Either I become vexed myself and speak ungraciously, blotting my witness; or they dig themselves deeper into a hole as Matthew 12:36 indicates-

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

I do not want to be the vehicle he uses to dig himself deeper. In not throwing pearls before pigs or in shaking the dust off my feet by not hearing my words (Matthew 10:14) and closing down discussion, it’s an art to keep that fine line. It’s an individual decision based on scripture and experience. I give one or two replies and cut it off from there, especially if they mock or use curse words.

Maybe I should give more time to a conversation or maybe my timing is just right. It’s a personal decision. Don’t feel guilty about cutting off endless replies and not engaging in a circling the drain conversation. I give a reply (hopefully graciously as 1 Peter 3:15 says to) but I also make decisions to cease engaging as per Matthew 7:6 says to. There are only so many hours in the day. I owe my time, metal energy, and emotional equilibrium to Jesus first, then to those closest to me in real life and my church family, and then to the anonymous public who contact me in this ministry.

It’s OK to bow out of a conversation that has run its course, or to block or mute people who have demonstrated ill-will. And I don’t feel guilty about it, either. Though I do feel bad for the person, so lost in his logic he is blinded from seeing the supernatural- which is God and His glory. I pray for that person. Then I shake the dust off my feet and go on to the next thing, ready with a reply for the hope that is within me…

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What can women do on stage during church services?

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By Elizabeth Prata

A reader asked about women on stage during church services. During the service different churches allow women to do different things. Some of those things might be-

–preaching the sermon
–leading a confessional or a devotional
–reading of scripture
–leading the choir
–singing solos
–singing in the choir with men
–leading congregational prayer
–giving announcements

It is obvious that scripture forbids a woman from preaching to the congregation, to men, or to teach them. No matter how feminists twist the pertinent scriptures, they always say the same thing. Preaching is a NO. (1 Timothy 2:12)

Ten years ago Tim Challies, book reviewer and at that time a pastor/elder in his church, wrote two essays on women reading scripture on stage during services. The first article was strong on the complementarian nature of the functions of men and women in the Sunday Church service. It generated lots of push back (even ten years ago, imagine if it was published these days!). So he wrote a second article explaining more of his thinking.

He believes that the reading of scripture is a teaching function and therefore reserved for men only. Oddly, he/his church allows a woman to lead prayer from time to time. So here we view the see-saw nature of what a woman can or cannot do on stage during a Sunday Service according to scripture and according to various peoples’ interpretation of it.

It’s really up to the conscience of the elders/pastor and his interpretation of the pertinent verses to make decisions in the gray areas where scripture doesn’t speak specifically. I tend to fall into the narrow interpretation category of interpreting that it’s best not having a woman speak anything on stage during the service. I like seeing only men on stage during Sunday services praying, speaking, leading, or teaching because it’s consistent with 1 Timothy and the headship issue.

the women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)

Here are Challies’ two articles. I liked his explanation of why he interprets the reading of scripture is a teaching function. That’s why I’m linking to it.

Here are Challies’ two articles

Article #1-

The Public Reading of Scripture

Article #2 responding to push back,

Men, Women & the Public Reading of Scripture

I agree with his articles that the reading of scripture is related to a teaching function (article #2 explains why very well, it’s why I posted it). I agree that preaching is reserved for men according to 1 Timothy 2 and other verses. In that same vein of interpretation, I personally believe that women leading prayer on stage during church service is the also a teaching function because we often pray scripture or pray about scripture, and therefore reserved for men.

I think especially in these days that a woman on stage during the church service speaking to the congregation in any form except to be baptized or share her testimony is a violation of 1 Timothy 2:11-12 and/or is a dangerous precedent presenting a poor ‘visual’ that will inspire others to follow and enlarge. A picture of a woman standing on stage with a Bible in her hand and a microphone in the other speaking to the congregation thru reading scripture or thru prayer puts the camel’s nose under the tent flap. We know that once you give an inch, satan will take a mile. Soon, I believe, that same church will allow women to preach. It’s incremental.

Here is an example of that incremental creep: …in a church I went to long ago a woman led the choir from on stage during service and sang with them. OK. But then she gravitated to standing behind the pulpit and explaining to the congregation the origin of the song they were about to sing. Hmmm. Then, she gravitated to standing behind the pulpit and explaining the theology and scriptures behind the song, and her explanations got even longer. Uh-oh. You see how it gets incrementally more of a violation of scripture to have a woman on stage explaining anything. Her “explanations” turned into mini-sermons over time. Give satan an inch … he takes a mile.

As for women singing in the choir with men or singing solos, I believe that is different. I believe that is an expression of service to God by using her God-given talent for the glory of God. When a woman leads congregational prayer or reads scripture she is being used as a vehicle to deliver God’s words to the people, that is why I believe it to be a violation of 1 Timothy 2. When she sings, she is using man’s words. She is not in authority over men because the highest authority, the Bible, is not being used as a conduit to express that authority. In that way, I believe singing is a service, not an authoritative leading.

Here is a blog post from Grace To You 2013 on the topic

https://www.gty.org/library/Blog/B130904

It’s about headship and submission (And Adam was formed first, then Eve…as the rest of the 1 Timothy 2 verse goes).

In my beliefs in matters of gray area, I tend to fall on the more conservative side. I know how grabby sin can be, and standing on the line with my toes right up to it would make for an easier fall into sin, in my view. Better to stay on more solid ground. But in matters of gray area it’s up to the pastor or elders’ interpretation and conscience, and then our own as our churches live out their ecclesiology.

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Ch-Ch-Changes

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By Elizabeth Prata

Yesterday was the last day of school for teachers. I said goodbye to the kids on Tuesday, ending a year of COVID, stress, uncertainty, perseverance, and eventually, victory.

I said goodbye today to my dear friend and boss of ten years, the person who hired me, supported me, encouraged me, prayed for me, and loved me despite my ridiculous quirks, Angie. After 32 years of service in this same school, she retired. I also said goodbye to sweet friend and sister in Christ, retiring school secretary Jeannie.

Also in the last week, I gave up my new stray cat Sully to the shelter, since he was so unhappy and never adjusted to inside life nor to me, and I was unhappy since I could not comfort him enough for him to calm down, but I’m still wracked with guilt.

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Stuck with Ahab, we long for Solomon, but in the end we get Jesus!

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By Elizabeth Prata

The Bible has much to say about leaders who fail to honor God and help the people. The Bible is replete with events, warnings, and punishments of kings and rulers who abuse the people they are supposed to govern wisely.

Verses like this one in Leviticus 19:13 are echoed throughout the pages of the Scriptures: “You shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him. The wages of a hired servant shall not remain with you all night until the morning.”

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Love in the time of evil and in a doomed nation

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By Elizabeth Prata

Six years ago almost to this day, John MacArthur preached the sermon, “Hope for a Doomed Nation“. The doomed nation is America. It was a sermon from the pastor side of him, not the teacher side of him. He did not explain the Bible verse-by-verse. Instead, he was speaking from the heart to his flock about today’s world.

MacArthur has been a Christian all his life and a pastor for 52. He has perspective. His thorough knowledge of the Bible and his pastoral heart give him a unique ability on this world’s stage to see both the past and the future insightfully. The progression of God’s work in giving over a rebellious nation is in full flower for America, and he spoke to his congregation as to why.

He quickly reviewed the tenets of the God-ordained, Holy Spirit enacted restraints put upon the world so it does not self-destruct from sin. Conscience, family, civil law/government and the church are four ways the Spirit restrains sin in the world. In addition, Romans 1 shows what God does to societies when societies leap over those bounds; what happens is sexual revolution, homosexual revolution, then reprobate mind. He said we are in the midst of a judgment he called ‘the wrath of abandonment’, since it can be clearly seen that America has leaped beyond those restraints and God has given us over to those different kinds of perversity. There is an eschatological wrath, and there is an eternal wrath, both of which people are familiar with in the Bible, but the current judgment is neither of those. The eschatological wrath is coming, and we can all agree, that is promised. But the current wrath is the judgment of abandonment. “That one is not coming. We’re in the midst of it,” MacArthur said.

This link was his 30 minute introduction in the sermon “Hope for a Doomed Nation.“

He then listed 12 points that are driving this nation to its terrible demise, a spiritual pathology that is causing us as a nation to run so fast to the cliff. Keep in mind that this powerful sermon was delivered 6 years ago. If you think back to 2015 and all that has happened since then, I think we can see that the Wrath of Abandonment as outlined in Romans 1 is certainly active here in the US. If we couldn’t ‘see’ it before, we can now.

I think any one with discerning, biblical sense can see how far along the prophetic timeline we are. Many people I work with who are of biblical maturity and discernment believe this as well. I know I do.

Acts 17:26 says,

and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

It might indeed be time for our 245 year old country of America to fall. It seems to me that God has been a moth, working silently and unobserved to fray the garment of our country (Hosea 5:12). The garment dissolves when we open the closet and put it on, full of holes and ragged to the point of disintegration. We are not anything special, certainly if God was a moth to Ephraim – His beloved, set-apart country – he would be the same to any nation that rebels so egregiously.

The sermon ended with Matthew 5:43. Love our enemy. No matter what happens, while we were still enemies, Jesus came down to rescue us, His enemies. So we are to love our enemies because we were them before grace came. The enemy is our mission field.

You’re never more like God than when you love your enemies, because you were one of the enemies God loved. Romans 5:10, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God. Your enemy is your mission field. The world of enemies was God’s mission field. God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son. …

To convert a sinner from his eternal doom is of far greater significance than the deliverance of an entire nation from temporal evil

His speaking of Godly love after 47 minutes of darkness was a Light that was powerful and incisive. Imagine demonstrating that kind of love in this very dark world. It will stand out brightly. Here is the sermon’s ending prayer:

Help us, Lord, to be a force for the gospel in this very, very doomed world. Lord, open up doors for us to preach Christ to perishing souls. Use us, Lord, to call Your own to Yourself. Help us to be faithful in proclaiming the truth and living it out. We’ll thank You, in Christ’s name.  Amen.

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The Beth Moore Effect, SBC Annual Meeting, and Storm Clouds

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As the SBC prepares to gather…the storm clouds gather

By Elizabeth Prata

I know your deeds, and your love and faith and service and perseverance, and that your deeds of late are greater than at first. 20‘But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21‘I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. 22‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. 23‘And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds. (Revelation 2:19-23).

There are so many warnings about false teaching. There really is NO reason to tolerate it. The first instruction ever given to the church is in Matthew 18, to discipline unrepentant church-going sinners! Jesus taught much against the dangers of false teaching, using vivid language of ravenous wolves shredding the sheep. Paul warning of unaddressed sin spreading like gangrene. Peter warned of satan roaming the earth looking for someone to devour. The letters to the churches in Revelation were written well after all the previous epistles. The Thyatirans should have known better.

We should always be pursuing holiness, and tolerating sin is the opposite of slaying sin. It is a massive failure.

In Thyatira’s case, not only had they tolerated a false prophetess who was usurping a place of leadership, but she had been doing it unabated for so long that she had spawned a second generation of like-minded idolater usurpers.

But let’s start with the first and pervasive thought that comes to our mind as we read the letter. It is obvious that this church had tolerated sin. It had tolerated acts of immorality and certain involvement with idols, as verse 20 indicates it. And not only had it tolerated, but it had allowed the woman who was teaching that to have reached a point of prominence where she was articulating it and leading Christians astray, as well as collecting around her some false believers. The Lord promises that He’s going to judge, and He’s going to judge that church severely, sparing only those, according to verse 24, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them. (The Church that Tolerates Sin part 1)

Think on this: the pollution from the Jezebel false prophetess was polluting the church and bringing judgment upon them. On the surface everything looked fine, though. The letter opens with Jesus exclaiming that the church had love, faith, service, and perseverance! Yet all was not well. The leaven of tolerating this Jezebel woman’s usurpation was going to bring severe judgment. Yes, ‘Jezebel’ and her like-minded children will be judged, but so will the people who allowed it!

Most churches tolerate sin of some kind all too often. Congregants divorce and it goes unremarked. Gossip spreads on prayer chains and people overlook it. People steal from God by failing to give cheerfully, and no one knows (except the church Treasurer and Jesus). But there are consequences for tolerating sin. Tolerating false doctrine or a false teacher has the most devastating consequence of all.

“In the case of the church at Thyatira, as of the churches in Sardis and Laodicea, the situation was far more serious. Here not merely a small minority was indifferent but large numbers had actually yielded to the demoralizing influence of false teaching, and I might add of sin.” [Charles Erdman, "The Revelation of John, Philadelphia: Westminster, 1966. p 56].

False teaching pollutes the church. False teachers pollute the church. False prophecies pollute the church. The tolerance of the Thyatiran leadership allowed sin to permeate their church and pollute it. They weren’t even struggling against it! They were simply caving in and letting it run rampant.

Since sin always worsens, it never, EVER rectifies itself, the sin in the Thyatiran church had descended to “the deep things of satan.” Thankfully, those deep satanic things are not spelled out in the letter, because we don’t need to know specifics. Suffice to say, tolerating false a prophetess means that satan’s things will simply embed deeper and deeper.

Worse, her sinful example will inspire others to do the same. And in Thyatira, that is exactly what happened. She had been tolerated so long that the church had descended to the evils of idolatry and the deep things of satan. AND she had spawned a second generation of false prophetesses!

"He says, “I’m going to kill her children.” What does He mean? I don’t think He means His bondservants who were following her. He means the second generation of her falsehood. It tells me this, that this thing had been around long enough in this church - remember, we’re in 96 A.D. and this church has been around for 40 years, this thing has been around long enough that there is a second generation of people propagating the same stuff. That’s her children. She has begotten a generation who are advocating the same thing…" (Thyatira: The Church That Tolerates Sin Part 2)

Let’s look at a modern day example: Beth Moore. Moore is a false prophetess, teaching false doctrine, prophesying, leading women astray. Southern Baptist Convention leadership and her own church leadership tolerated Moore, a false prophetess usurping a place of leadership not designed for a woman, bringing false teachings to women, living a life not designed for wives to lead. Her own pastor vaulted her to the initial position of preaching on Sundays and teaching co-ed classes. Knowing this was forbidden and after cursorily questioning the legitimacy of this, Moore seized at the opportunity to put herself in a position not designed for her, and never let go.

When it was obvious that her usurping and prophesying was getting out of control, and that her local pastor was not going to do anything about it, SBC leaders also tolerated her usurpation. Some even congratulated her for it.

Does sin ever lay passively around, helplessly spread? No. Sin is aggressive and it will permeate if given even a minute chance, and that is what happened with Moore. Other like-minded, usurping women watched Moore carefully, and seeing no leadership objections and certainly no discipline or consequence to her sin, they vaulted forward. This is the second generation of her children (Revelation 2:23).

I’ve read so many women online who “credit” Moore for the ground-breaking she did in making it possible for them to teach, preach, and prophesy.

There are tons of comments like these from many women, either as well-known as Wilkin or less well known. It’s a steady stream online of women praising Moore for leading the way into egalitarianism and acceptance of women usurping in the church. The comments remain the same- they “credit” Moore’s example of a Thyatiran Jezebel for clearing the path for them to preach. Women have even been ordained in the SBC now, with leaders perfectly open about it. This must stop. Moore laid the groundwork for this result and leaders tolerated it to the point where it’s accepted now, but the rug can be pulled out and new ground work laid, one that stands upon biblical principles and is acceptable to Jesus.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He did not tolerate false prophetesses in his church leading people astray then, and He does not tolerate it now. He also doesn’t accept leaders tolerating this kind of sin, either. He will judge.

My exhortation for the leaders attending the upcoming SBC annual meeting is to re-think your stance on women teaching men and preaching. Not because I said so. But because Jesus did. We do not want to have our denomination descend int the “deep things of satan” anymore than it already has. It robs Jesus of glory! It harms His people.

My request to readers is that since there are caravans of good men heading to the Southern Baptist Convention Annual Meeting in Nashville June 15-16 with intent to persuade those tolerating this female usurping sin and other sins to rectify it, please pray for these men to be successful. Please pray for the ones who oppose curbing the leftward drift of our denomination, too.