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Being a ‘Crunchy’ Christian and avoiding New Age Influences

By Elizabeth Prata

Doreen “Dee” Virtue is a former New Age adherent who used to write books about angel spirituality. She converted to Christianity 9 years ago and with the scales having fallen from her eyes, now is a Christian. Virtue has renounced all her New Age beliefs, books, and practices, and is happily and unashamedly a Christian. She has a Youtube channel, here.

Ashley Sheatz, wife to Trevor and his ministry On the Mount, mom to 3, has several social media accounts. Facebook, Instagram, On the Mount ‘s Youtube.

Angela Mitchell’s ministry is called Raising Apologists. She is a married stay-at-home-mom, who writes on Instagram, Facebook, and her blog called Raising Apologists, on the topics of discernment, homeschooling, and encouraging mothers and women.

These three ladies, well versed in a biblical worldview and walking uprightly in Jesus, discussed “Crunchy Christians Avoiding New Age Deception“. They talked about what is crunchy Christianity, discerning good wellness advice vs. unhealthy advice, and how New Age ideas can seep into even the most well-meaning mother’s worldview, corrupting it with syncretism.

Doreen Virtue has a knack for asking insightful questions, illustrating her skill to deeply listen then follow up with a question that elicits even more information. Her choice of guests is also wise. The two ladies here explain themselves so well I decided to transcribe portions of the discussion that impacted me, and interspersed with my own thoughts. I urge you to listen to the entire conversation. It will be even more impactful when you hear it in context.


In this first quote, I loved what was being said. Social media has risen to levels that greatly affect us. People with large followings are even called “influencers”. The influence is to entice listeners to buy their product, read their book, heed their advice. Many times their books or advice is good. But sometimes the advice is unfounded, unscientific, or unChristian. We must learn to research widely, and confirm what we hear or see from social media from credible sources.

For example, many people know of Dr. Josh Axe. He usually places the honorific in front of his name. People use the honorific when speaking of him. But he is not a Doctor of Medicine. He cannot diagnose or treat medical conditions or prescribe pharmaceutical drugs. He holds a Dr. of Chiropractic degree, a Dr. of Natural medicine and is a certified nutritionist. But not a medical doctor. Some people don’t research, see the ‘Dr.’ and believe all his advice is trustworthy. It isn’t.

Many social media accounts either purposely or unintentionally add other spiritualities into their advice. Even practicing Christians do this.

2020 was hard on us all, and we lost our trust in the medical profession. Ashley and Angela both speak to this. Nature abhors a vacuum, so the hole has to be filled with something else. Hence, the rise of social media medical advice from people who may or may not be credentialed professionals, or even credible.

ASHLEY SHEATZ:

My warning is don’t get all of your health advice from Instagram because you’re probably going to be led astray. You need to back it up with also your own research and googling stuff and verifying it. There’s a lot of false information on Instagram. But I think one of the key takeaways if you are on Instagram and you are getting a lot of good health knowledge- because there is a lot of it out there- is sticking to accounts that are focusing on just whole foods or more ingredient focused rather than bringing their spirituality into it. So I think that’s a good way to guard your mind is to not even as a Christian to not even follow accounts that are talking about a false spirituality or are saying things that contradict the Bible.

There are so many great Instagram accounts that are just very health food focused. And if you are a Christian, there are also great biblical Christians who are in the health world and who do bring their faith in to the word of God. We just have to be really cautious with following people who are saying they’re spiritual, right?

If you’re married, talk to your husband with what you’re reading about and what you’re ingesting because God has placed your husband as your spiritual head to protect you. And if you’re just on your phone and you’re researching all these things and you don’t ever talk to him about it, I feel like there’s already like an open door for the devil and demons, honestly, to attack you there if you’re not open with your husband.


It’s hard for some people to let go of the teacher/advice/books etc from a favored teacher or influencer if told they aren’t the healthiest for your soul. They have invested and do not want to let go. They invest time, money, or reputation in this teacher or influencer and they don’t want to hear they have been deceived. Deception by investment has a powerful pull.

Often I’ll hear back that “But this teacher is good because his method worked… But my prayer came true… But my thing resolved…”

ANGELA MITCHELL

They’ve really put some trust in this method and they’ll say, “But it works.” And my push back to that is always we’re not pragmatists, which means we don’t just do something because it works. We’re Christians. We have to ask why. We have to ask, ‘Is this ‘glorifying the Lord?’ ‘Is this changing my worldview?’ And so, a lot of the times what I’m seeing is women is, their worldviews are changing.

There’s syncretism. Now syncretism is when you take parts of one religion and you’re mixing it with Christianity. But we know in Deuteronomy and Exodus that the Lord specifically warns against syncretism. I mean we see in Exodus where Aaron creates a golden calf and says, “We’re going to use this to worship God.” And God says absolutely not. This is disobedience. It’s the same thing when we go to something for help that isn’t of God. It’s idolatry.


I see some rigid perfectionism in this crunchy movement. Women become involved with it, then absorbed in it, then myopic about it, having tunnel vision. That’s ground ripe for Legalism. A rigid adherence to a protocol, tradition, or method that the person thinks will save them, or gain ‘points’ with Jesus (or her church).

I understand the ‘crunchy’ movement is wide, with varying levels of commitment or a variety of applications. But sometimes I hear women adhering to a rigid method and thinking that if they achieve it 100% this will somehow put them in better standing with Jesus.

DOREEN VIRTUE:

How do we guard against taking our eyes off the cross and instead thinking that if we just make everything in our house and our diet 100% perfect that that will somehow save us.

ASHLEY SHEATZ:

So as the unbeliever, they are searching and seeking to control all aspects of their life. This is the only life to them and they want to make it long and healthy. But I mean even if you are doing all the right things, some of the most healthy people in the world still get cancer. I mean even you could do all the healthy things in the world and still die in a car crash tomorrow. So there’s certain things that are just completely out of our control. And God has also given us blessings to enjoy in this life. Like if you enjoy going to Chipotle. I use Chipotle because I love Chipotle.

If you enjoy those things and you can sit down and enjoy that meal with joy…how we guard against perfectionism is realizing we’ll literally never be perfect in this life and the reason why you want to have good health and pursue good and healthy foods is to feel good today so you can serve the Lord later. It’s not about preserving your life. Our days are already numbered.


That rigidness rears its head. I’ve heard of women who won’t attend a dinner at someone’s house because their food is served from plastic containers, or their eggs are from a store. That’s perfectionism again, where your preference for something interferes with your ‘one another’.

ANGELA MITCHELL:

I think keeping in mind what stewardship looks like per family is going to be different. And now I’ve had people say that it’s more biblical to raise your own meat, to live on a farm. Kind of like a tradlife culture. Like, ‘you need to not buy eggs from the store’. I can’t do that. I live with an HOA. They won’t allow chickens. So we have to be really careful what we say is biblical and what we say is God-glorifying because we all have different circumstances.

The key word here is “preference”. Desiring to eat or feed your family farm fresh eggs, for example, or locally butchered meat, is a preference. Nothing in the New Testament commands you one way or another on that level of specificity of food or lifestyle.

ANGELA MITCHELL:

There there’s things with hospitality that we have to think- are my preferences ruling out love? I’m seeing a rise in eating disorders because of crunchy culture because it can just take over your mind. Everything becomes about what you’re putting in your body, and that can lead to idolatry. And anytime we create a disordered thinking where we’re thinking about all the time. It’s controlling our thoughts. It’s controlling our behaviors. It’s controlling our speech. We’ve created a functional God. And I would really caution women in crunchy culture to not do that to each other and to not do that to themselves.


Doreen asked about women who may be listening or watching to the video who are going through a health challenge and is becoming desperate. Many times when we go through an unexpected illness or health issue and prayer, patience, and standard medicine is not working, we become desperate. That is a risky time, because our decision making is clouded.

ANGELA MITCHELL:

I would also encourage women, if you have a woman in your life that’s suffering, she needs your prayers. She needs your friendship. She needs you to point her to God’s word before giving her crunchy advice.

I would say what do we believe about God? Do we believe that he actually means to do us good and not harm? Do we believe he’s in control? Do we believe we can trust him? Is he a good God?

I do like to ask questions. What is your desire for being crunchy? Is it a fear of death? Are do you think that you control can control getting cancer? Do you think you can control not getting disease? Do you think your good choices is going to somehow sway the hand of God even though he says you can’t add one hour to your life? I think sometimes we can have a real fear of death and crunchy culture kind of pacifies us with that. But as believers, we know where we’re going. We’re going to be with our God. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. And to live is gain and to die is gain. And I just want my sisters in Christ to remember that that God loves you and he cares for you and he cares for your health. 


It was a great conversation. I encourage you all to take a listen here Crunchy Christians Avoiding New Age Deception“. All three women are a good follow. They are consistent with encouragement and advice from a biblical worldview.

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Christ’s love

By Elizabeth Prata

The following is a quote from Georg Steinberger, found in Chapel Library’s quarterly magazine, Free Grace Broadcaster #159, “Love”.

THE LAMB TEACHES YOU TO LOVE

“Having loved his own that were in the world, he loved them unto the end” (John 13:1). How did He love? He loved His own more than Himself, and this is really the “love of Christ.” Natural love loves according to its own inclination; the love which the Law commands loves because God wills it. It loves from duty and loves its neighbor as itself (Luke 10:27). But the love of Christ loves others more than itself. How far we still come short of that! So many times we have begun to love, but have soon grown weary and proved unfaithful to the sacred task.

Only in the school of Christ do we learn the true meaning of love. There we learn to love in God’s way, to love with that love which is in God’s own heart. There is no place where sin creeps in more frequently than in the realm of affection. One does less harm by hatred than by false love. Often our enemies have not hurt us so much as our “good friends.” If we desire that our inward man shall grow and prosper, then let us undertake a thoroughgoing investigation of ourselves and allow our hearts to be cleansed of all impurity. In the great chapter on love we are told that “love rejoices in the truth.”

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1967’s ‘Summer of Love’; or was it the summer of hate?

By Elizabeth Prata

City Lights Books in San Francisco was the epicenter for the Beat Generation of the 1950s and helped spark the cultural earthquake that was the hippie movement of the ’60s. EPrata photo

It happened 59 years ago. It was summer, flower children ‘hippies’ were on the rise, the Viet Nam war had become full blown, and an entire subculture was born. It was dubbed the “Summer of Love”.

The generation born Post-WWII in the late 1940s and 1950s and their parents experienced economic prosperity, technological advances, and a feeling of hopefulness since the dark World War was ended.

As with any culture, the hopefulness evaporated as the Cold War entered. The cultural highs went to lows. Nuclear fears, Russia fears, and general feelings of concern with what rapid consumerism and technology was doing to the country sparked the now teenage and young adult Baby Boomer generation to “question authority” and reject the old way of living.

Then the Viet Nam war happened, and with it, the fairly new technology called television, showing its satellite images from jungles of death halfway around the world now added to the generation’s discontent. The newsman Walter Cronkite intoning at the end of every nightly newscast the number of dead and injured in the war added to the prevailing mood of uneasiness.

Cronkite, America’s ‘most trustworthy voice’ declared the war a stalemate in early 1968. In those days news broadcasters did not utter opinions due to the federal law Fairness Doctrine. His pronouncement of the war a stalemate crashed into public consciousness & altered the course of it.

The rejection of the way things were into a way the hippies wanted things to be, came together to ignite The Summer of Love.

The hippies were also called Flower Children. They advocated for peace and love, art and poetry, spiritual transcendence- usually drug induced- and community.

Sounds good, right?

Remember, anything obtained outside of God is vanity, empty, and vain.

The Summer of Love was an event where over 100,000 hippies converged on Haight-Ashbury neighborhood in San Francisco. These were kids seeking a new way of life, some were drifting runaways, and others just came for the drugs. But they came, did they ever. They wanted to re-structure civilization through peace and love. “To find a new way for humanity” as the gentleman says below. Could they even “restructure society”? For a while, yes, they did. We still feel the effects of that summer today, nearly 60 years later.

Screen shot from PBS’ The American Experience: The Summer of Love

Part of that new way for humanity was the hippies were taught to “question authority” and “turn on, tune in, drop out” by LSD drenched counterculture-man Timothy Leary. Leary was-

“One of the most influential icons in the counterculture movement which formed in the late 1960s out of opposition to the Vietnam War’s escalation, Leary gained influence among much of the youth by advocating the use of LSD as a way of mind expansion and the revelation of personal truth.” (Source).

The truth of it is, the entire movement was demonic. The youth did drop out, of society, of college, from families. They wandered, spiritually and physically, into new realms. Realms of depravity such as experimenting with homosexuality and lesbianism. Realms of mind-altering drugs. Realms of different living situations such as polygamy or ‘free love’ communes.

It’s easy to write off the hippie movement as essentially unserious. Most of them were young; few of them were sober; they said things like “groovy” and “far out.” And in part, the hippies were animated by psychic impulses that weren’t new: the youthful rejection of the apparent mundanity of adulthood, and good old hedonism.

But lurking beneath the shallow motifs – flowers in the hair, acid [LSD] on the tongue – was a serious philosophical protest. “At the deepest level,” writes W. J. Rorabaugh, in one of the few good histories of the movement, the hippies expressed “a crisis of belief.

Source above, essay “The Terrible Optimism of the Hippies” published in The Independent (UK) 2019.

The Preacher in Ecclesiastes teaches us something about the pointless search for meaning and a satisfying lifestyle that are apart from God.

Further, in W. J. Rorabaugh’s retrospective book, American Hippies (Cambridge Essential Histories) we read of the,

“massive upheavals of the 1960s, which included civil rights, Black Power, feminism, and gay liberation, as well as looser sexual mores, the end of censorship, street protests, political radicalism, and environmentalism. Collectively, these movements profoundly changed the United States. Second, the hippie counterculture was large. Hundreds of thousands of young Americans were, at least for a time, hippies, and millions adopted some if not all hippie beliefs and practices. The numbers mattered. Third, hippie values represented a generational break with traditional middle-class culture. When hordes of people concentrated in a single youth generation simultaneously adopted new thoughts and behaviors, mainstream culture was forced to pay attention. In the long run, hippies played a significant role in transforming American society.”

A LOT was going on in the 1960s! That ‘Summer of Love’ was a startling and visible opening to this upheaval. A crisis of belief. A yearning for something missing from American life. A seeking of a new way.

Don’t all of those reflect back to Ecclesiastes? King Solomon wrote of the yearning of the human heart and its vain seeking, apart from God. God defines love. Disaffected youths do not define love.

Swami Satchidananda giving the opening talk at the Woodstock Festival of 1969. By Mark Goff – my own collection, Public Domain

What is love? The hippies thought they had unlocked the secret to spiritual fulfillment. They believed, with the help of LSD and mushrooms, that they could access the transcendent divine, and become one with the universe, in love. Many turned to Eastern religions and their music sounded forth with flutes and zithers.

However, God defined love through His word. His is the only and the final word on the subject. The hippies, mainly middle-class white Americans, really did have it good. Two parent households with a mom and a dad, two car homes with garage, creature comforts, church-going, sexual normalcy, and clean living. Rejecting all that for a mystical union with a drug induced divine was for a time, unrestrained disorder nationwide.

What IS love?

Love is patient, love is kind, it is not jealous; love does not brag, it is not arrogant. It does not act disgracefully, it does not seek its own benefit; it is not provoked, does not keep an account of a wrong suffered, it does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; it keeps every confidence, it believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails; … But now faith, hope, and love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love. (1 Corinthians 13: 4-8a, 13).

God is love, and those who love Him know love, for God IS love.

The one who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will reveal Myself to him. (John 14:21).

There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. (1 John 4:18).

I can’t overstate the rapidity with which the hippies’ concepts and philosophies changed America for the worse. Sadly, many of the hippies descended into homelessness and drug addiction. Others came up with sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies. Others discovered that free love meant their loved one moved on to the next partner without a thought, leaving broken hearts and disillusionment in their wake. Free love, apparently, wasn’t free.

When humans define love it always misses the mark. As is natural with the natural man, the hippie culture descended quickly to depravity and a worship of self. Self-evolution, the divine within, freedom of self-expression, and a self-involved love were at the core, and thus, destined to fail.

The hippies’ counter-culture movement was historically a new approach. Not blind ambition of the Caesar era. Not Machiavellian scheming of the feudal lords. Not evil malevolence of the dictator times. This time, satan tried a gentle naivete that rushed the love culture into the American summer. For a while, it worked.

The Flower Power photograph by Bernie Boston, taken during the March on the Pentagon, October 21, 1967.
Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=37905458

The Preacher said in Ecclesiastes 12:1a, “Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth,“… and Ecclesiastes 12:13-14,

Only God can change a culture for the good. Let’s conclude with the Preacher’s conclusion-

The conclusion, when everything has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person. For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.

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Testing the “God Told Me” Claim; Part 2

By Elizabeth Prata

Yesterday in part 1 I’d examined the fact that women for generations now have been taught from so-called Bible teachers, book authors, and podcasters that we hear directly from God. Whether these revelations or direct contacts are in the form of whispers, prompts, visions, impressions on our heart, ‘told me,’ or audibly, we’ve been taught that it’s supposed to be normal to have a relationship with full of lively, direct two-way communication.

I’d said no, that is not the normal method of communication from God, He speaks from the Bible and the Bible alone.

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Testing the “God Told Me” Claim; Part 1

By Elizabeth Prata

Can we detect whether a prompt from the Holy Spirit is legitimate or if it’s your own imagination? Many lady ministries focus on this, offering in their videos, essays, and books, certain steps to determine how to sort out whether internal promptings, whispers, or allegedly divine conversations are from the Spirit. Do these steps work? No.

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When should a pastor retire? Copeland v. MacArthur

By Elizabeth Prata

Most jobs are jobs we retire from and think nothing of it. It’s the natural course that we retire from long haul trucking, bricklaying, nursing, teaching. I’m going to be 66 soon and I’m thinking about retiring from my school job.

But when a man is called to be a pastor, and he goes through training (usually seminary), and walks up to his pulpit for the first time, for these men it’s a lifetime commitment. To them, the responsibility is so heavy, they care for their flock so much, the call feels permanent. He stays at the pulpit, unless the Lord takes him home or he falls under reproach and disqualifies himself.

Not that pastors can’t or shouldn’t retire. The Levites were to serve in the tabernacle until age 50. But in today’s times, the Bible does not give a standard for when a man should step down. The qualification is that he should be “able to teach”. (1 Timothy 3:2; 2 Timothy 2:24). There are other considerations, too.

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