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Trauma Bonding with false teachers

By Elizabeth Prata

Yesterday I wrote about the ministry of Jenny Weaver Worships, founded by Jenny Weaver and her husband Stephen. Weaver was a runaway, homeless, witchcraft-practicing drug-addicted teen, then a troubled young woman eventually at age 26 jailed for meth use and discovered in jail she was pregnant. She says she got clean in jail, got out, married the father of her baby (Stephen), began singing the scriptures, and got famous. Her ministry has turned into deliverance ministry events and mentorship courses (like a college similar to Bethel) focusing on demons, charismania, and exposing the supernatural realm.

I’d concluded with a warning to avoid her ministry.
Jenny Weaver: Discerning her ‘ministry’

Trauma Bonding

In researching Jenny Weaver, I came across The Honest Youth Pastor (HYP). He gave a ‘sermon review’ of one of Jenny Weaver’s events. He is Michael Moore (no relation to false teacher Beth or former ERLC guy Russell). In his review he shared a perspective I thought was highly interesting and new to me.

He called it “trauma bonding”.

In these current days many people claim to have trauma. It’s a popular buzzword. Everyone seems to be a victim of something.

I don’t deny trauma occurs. Most definitely. What I take issue with is the watering down of the definition of trauma, from something heavy and life-impacting, to merely getting the wrong order at the McDs drive thru.

Screenshot of a Weaver event “Festival of Fire.” Her events are not lacking a willing audience

Jenny Weaver is a singer, entrepreneur, mother, and prophetess. I discussed her theology and lifestyle yesterday. The HYP Michael Moore’s take on Jenny was interesting to me. As I had looked at her theology and lifestyle (1 Timothy 4:16), Moore also looked at the psychology. To be sure, he is not a psychologist, but in general terms, we can see a person’s catalyst for launching into ministry and some things they say and do can be plainly understood.

I do not discount the rough start in life Jenny had. Hers surely was a traumatic life. I feel for her. That she survived as long as she did was amazing. Good for her that she seems to be thriving today. I just wish she wasn’t thriving on making merchandise of her followers by capitalizing on their perceived trauma, and trading on hers.


Here is the perspective I thought was so interesting. The Honest Youth Pastor said of Jenny’s output:

HYP: “Within our day and age there’s a lot of people that have been traumatized through various things in their life. So what she’s [Jenny] really calling on not just with the story that she tells but the illustration she’s giving here, is there’s this broken little child inside of you and you need freed from whatever demon entered at that particular time. She’s going to play on that trauma that occurred in a lot of these ladies’ lives as an entry point to say, ‘hey there’s a scared little child Jesus is protecting and he wants to free you from whatever thing happened’.”

(Editor Note: If this reminds you of how Beth Moore approaches her ministry, you’d be correct.)

Honest Youth Pastor: “There’s a lot of psychological truth behind that in regards to people being traumatized and your brain kind of changing during those moments. Because your brain by God’s grace is designed to try to protect itself. So even in a fallen world your brain operates in a way that God has gloriously designed it to try to and shield you from that.”

It’s true that trauma causes brain changes. From the article Traumatic stress: effects on the brain by J. Douglas Bremner, MD in the National Library of Medicine, we read-

Dr. Bremner looked at how “To understand how traumatic stress occurring at different stages of the life cycle interacts with the developing brain… Brain areas implicated in the stress response include the amygdala, hippocampus, and prefrontal cortex. Traumatic stress can be associated with lasting changes in these brain areas. 

The Honest Youth Pastor states at the outset of his reviews that he looks for 3 things in a the person’s speech he is reviewing:
1. Did the person read scripture from the Bible?
2. Did they exegete the scriptures correctly and in context?
3. Did they preach the Gospel?

HYP: “So we were left with a very strange mixture of Deliverance Ministry demonology, and not really not really self-help, but the bringing up of trauma and overcoming that trauma. She did talk about Jesus for sure but she didn’t mention the gospel.”

In the review that the HYP shared on his Youtube channel, no, Jenny Weaver did not read the scriptures, she did not exegete the scripture, and she didn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jenny did talk about Jesus a lot, but the explicit Gospel was absent. The implicit assumption was that everyone there already believed in Jesus and we just need to get these demons out of the way.

HYP: “By the time they left did feel like something had happened, because when you work through trauma, when you talk about trauma, when you actually bring that about there’s a lot of emotions that come up in there. There’s a lot of things that surface. There’s a lot of endorphins that are released.”

HYP: “Sometimes those things are good. Talking about trauma is great. Overcoming trauma is wonderful. What’s more helpful however, and what assists in that process the best is, if you understand that the God that created heaven and earth came in the form of a baby, lived a perfect life that you could not live, died the death you should have died because we’re all Sinners apart from God. Because of Jesus’s life, death and Resurrection we are reconciled to God the Father through Jesus Christ his Son.”

And that is what was absent from jenny’s speech. Jesus was spoken of, but trauma via demons was the main idea.

These false ones connect with you over trauma. They share an emotional story of their own trauma, however they define it, assisted by language designed to pull at the heart, and some sensitive music thrown in. They don’t bond with you over our universal issue of sin and the need to repent. Their connection point is emotionalism through shared trauma.

Honest Youth Pastor review of Jenny Weaver event: https://youtu.be/WfsfP6FjyYE?si=1vBFYaLs_wyZV6pz

It makes sense, because we all have trauma of some kind, and in this day and age, all sorts of definitions of trauma are accepted. It’s a “my truth vs. your truth” sort of idea except it’s “my trauma vs. your trauma.”

That’s a problem, when the call to repent of sin and to worship Jesus is replaced with a call to bust the demon that’s harassing or possessing you by the power of Jesus. In the latter case, Jesus is a vehicle for fleshly temporary relief, not a Savior unto eternal salvation.

Adherents to this type of ‘ministry’ base their belief on the signs, miracles, and healings, not on the One who performed them. Jesus acknowledged this when He said,

Then Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.” (John 4:48)

The post-event resilience that occurs for most of these demon-focused or signs-focused people in Charismatic ministries isn’t the perfect peace of Jesus, it is the psychological feeling that someone finally listened and helped. Of course, this feeling doesn’t last, because no emotion lasts. So the feeling of relief or connection or empathy dissipates, and they need another dose of demon deliverance to make it stick. And on it goes.

My point for the dear reader today is, watch and discern upon which connection point the Bible teacher or pastor uses to connect with his or her audience. See if it is the same connection point he or she uses on a regular basis. If it’s regularly anything other than the person of Jesus, Him for Himself, then begin discerning more deeply and pray it through. Most importantly, avoid these kind of ministries.

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Jenny Weaver: Discerning her ‘ministry’

By Elizabeth Prata

Today I’m talking about Jenny Weaver of ‘Jenny Weaver Worships’. She came to my attention when I was asked about her ministry. I looked into it and answered the reader’s query. Then I dug in even further. This is what I discovered.

Jenny Weaver. Youtube profile picture.

Cut to the Chase:

Avoid Jenny weaver. She’s false.

About Jenny

To begin with, who is Jenny Weaver? Weaver has 212,000 followers on Instagram, 167,000 on Facebook, 149,000 subscribers on Youtube. Her events sell out to masses. She became known as Jenny Weaver Worships because she is at root, a musician. She sings the scriptures.

She is said to have spiked a “massive Jesus movement.” But is this movement of Jesus? Let’s look into this ‘massive movement’ (that I never heard of till now).

Origins

Jenny, daughter Cameron, and husband Stephen in 2020 thanking God that their ministry is also a business that kept them afloat during the C0vid time. Source Weaver FB Page

Jenny Grew up on the Gulf coast of Florida in a family of 8 with a mother and father who Jenny said were excessively strict and punished at the slightest provocation. They also both used heroin, including when the mother was pregnant with Jenny. Jenny was born addicted. At age 13 her father abandoned the family and the remaining family became severely impoverished.

Subsequently, Jenny was entranced by witchcraft, reading up on Wicca and practicing the witchcraft arts. She says she became so good she could perform telekinesis (ability to move objects by mental power), saying she could extend her hand to a bureau drawer and it would open. Or lights would burst above her and shower down glass when she was talking about the demonic realm.

At age 17 Jenny ran away from home. She began heavy drug use. She couch surfed with a family whose daughter was into the demonic realm via witchcraft, and Jenny circled further down into it. She says she could feel demons all around. Instead of the practice being fun she now began to feel tormented with no escape.

Sometime later she finally quit the witchcraft but continued to be demonically tormented for years, Jenny says. Her drug use continued. When she was 26 she was living with her boyfriend Stephen and addicted to meth. Reaching her lowest point, she screamed for Jesus to help her. She said after that she felt peace.

The help, she says, came 2 days later in the form of arrest and jail. In jail she discovered she was pregnant. She got clean, got prenatal care, got out, married Stephen Weaver, and got saved.

Yet…about that salvation…in her book “The Sound of Freedom: How to Bring the God of the Breakthrough into Your Toughest Struggles“, she says at age 6 she was at a Pentecostal revival and the pastor there singled her out, called her to the front, laid hands on her and she was suddenly slain in the spirit and fell backwards. Getting up off the floor she says she spoke in tongues. Saved then?

And, that at age 7 she was given a vision of Jesus in heaven on his throne. From her book, her own words,

I finally reached the place where Jesus was sitting and He put me up on His lap. Just like a loving Father, He began to talk with me, and He put His hand over my heart. I don’t recall exactly what He said to me, but I do remember feeling safe. I remember feeling loved, and it felt like I was home. I was so ecstatic about the dream. To me it wasn’t just a dream, it was Jesus actually meeting me and encountering me. From that moment I began to see into the supernatural realm.”

Des Jesus talk with us now? The scriptures say they are enough, even Peter who had a transfiguring experience with Jesus, said the word is more sure.

And so we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. (2 Peter 1:19).

Saved then? Saved in jail at 26? I understand some people do not know the moment of salvation, but her lifelong experiences with the supernatural realm is likely the reason why she attributes potential demon possession to Christians.

Issue : Demons Everywhere

Nowadays, Jenny’s entire ‘ministry’ is founded on and focuses on trauma and demons. She calls everything a demon. Lonely? It’s a demon of loneliness. Rejected? That’s the demon of rejection. So, issue with Jenny Weaver, her focus on the demonic realm. More on that tomorrow in another essay. Stay tuned, there are some really good perspectives I discovered from The Honest Youth Pastor.

For the record, I don’t deny there are demons out and about, the Bible tells us there are. I also don’t deny some unsaved people in today’s times can be demon possessed. It still happens. However, Jenny claims Christians can also have a demon. She is sometimes vague on this, going back and forth in nebulous language on whether a Christian can have a demon inside ‘guiding’ them or if it’s external oppression. But in two videos I watched she did assert that a Christian can be internally inhabited by a demon, and this is simply not true.


Issue : Lifestyle

As an adult, Jenny Weaver claims to be “a wife and homeschool mother, she believes in building families and communities in the Kingdom of God.” That quote was from her website. It’s obvious that Jenny also believes in building her brand and being a busy entrepreneur.

In 2018 Jenny Weaver started an online mentoring group of about 50 people. She calls it CORE. By 2022, she writes, it exploded in popularity as ‘God’ broke out revival. The curriculum of this now vast training college of 14,000 adherents includes live lessons which are ‘Holy Spirit-led’ and on Mondays students learn “deliverance & spiritual warfare training”. She also started a kids’ program and now trains thousands of kids and teens in the core group.

Below are the businesses and activities Jenny runs and maintains according to her Instagram linktree. And she also homeschools and mothers her daughter? Not sure about this claim. There isn’t enough time in a day to do all that and focus on being the mother Jesus wants a woman with children to be…

So, of her claim to be a “homeschooling mom,” in addition to mothering, she travels for concerts, runs a Business Coaching program that helps with “social media strategies, scaling a business, recreating a cohesive look and “feel” to your brand or business and I even teach how to use systems for organizing and schedule blocking“, develops and sells merchandise, AND runs an CORE academy with 14,000 students, and more. Homeschooling mom? Doubtful.


Issue : Direct Revelation

Jenny says she ‘leads in “Prophetic worship”‘ Nope. When she prophesies it’s false prophecy. These screen shots are from her January 2 prophetic word on Facebook Live. She is praying the Lord’s use of her will be accurate and edifying, and “thus saith the Lord”.

“Thus saith the Lord” is biblical language used in the Old Testament which confirmed the Prophet was of God. Above, Jenny is taking the Lord’s name in vain, blaspheming according to Exodus 20:7, because the Lord is not speaking to her. She is putting words in His mouth He didn’t say. Doing so, kindles His wrath.

Above, Jenny’s January 2 ‘prophetic word’ includes specificity on exactly HOW ‘Jesus’ told her to express His words to the listening audience on her Facebook livestream. Putting words in the Lord’s mouth that He didn’t say is dangerous. False prophets like Jenny will be severely punished.

This is what the LORD of armies says:
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; They tell a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the LORD.
(Jeremiah 23:16)

I did not send these prophets,
But they ran.
I did not speak to them,
But they prophesied.

Jeremiah 23:21

“The prophets are prophesying lies in My name,” replied the LORD. “I did not send them or appoint them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a false vision, a worthless divination, the futility and delusion of their own minds. (Jeremiah 14:14).

False prophets happened then, it happens now. Prophecy is not occurring in this day and age because the canon is complete. (Revelation 22:18-19; 2 Timothy 3:16). Anyone in these days who claims to have heard directly from the Lord, is is delusional, false, or lying.

Jenny Weaver is a false teacher and a false prophet. All that is left for her (unless she truly repents) is plagues and wrath and punishment, according to the word of God. Avoid Jenny Weaver.


Can a Christian be Demon-possessed?

Charismatic Conference with singer Jenny Weaver encourages children to be slain in the spirit, speak in tongues

Testing Jenny Weaver’s Teachings (18-min video from Learn to Discern). In this video Weaver also says that Christians can be possessed by mind-controlling ‘octopus spirits’.